Secrets and Spies Podcast: Espionage | Global Issues | Current Affairs

Secrets & Spies

Secrets and Spies sits at the intersection of intelligence, covert action, real-world espionage, and broader geopolitics in a way that is digestible but serious. Hosted by filmmaker Chris Carr and writer Matt Fulton, each episode unpacks global events through the lens of intelligence and geopolitics, featuring expert insights from former spies, authors, and analysts. Tune in for balanced, critical perspectives that will expand your understanding of our uncertain world, deciphering the most enigmatic professions, ideologies, and organizations that shape the global landscape. Subscribe to Secrets and Spies today on all major podcast streaming platforms. Our Hosts Host Chris Carr, driven...

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Secrets and Spies Podcast: Espionage | Global Issues | Current Affairs

Episodes (332)

Saturday S10 Ep48: Think Like a Spy: What Intelligence Work Really Teaches About People | Julian Fisher
Thu Jun 4th S10 Ep47: A Rich Harvest of Bitter Fruit : CIA, MI6, and Covert Action in Cold War Albania with Stephen Long
May 31st S10 Ep46: Espresso Martini | Gabbard Resigns, Trump Meets Xi, and China's Capitol Hill Spy Pitch

Secrets and Spies Podcast: Espionage | Global Issues | Current Affairs

Jun 6, 2026
1½ hours
64 MB

Julian Fisher spent his career as a British intelligence operative before distilling what he learned into the Think Like a Spy: Strategic Relations Workshop—and his central argument is counterintuitive: the most transferable lessons from intelligence work aren't classified techniques, they're interpersonal skills. In conversation with Chris, Fisher argues that human intelligence, at its core, is the disciplined practice of building trust, reading people accurately, and cultivating long-term strategic relationships—competencies with direct applications in leadership, negotiation, and professional life. The conversation covers his distinction between influence and manipulation (one operates in a subject's interests; the other subverts them), the...

Secrets and Spies Podcast: Espionage | Global Issues | Current Affairs

S10 Ep48: Think Like a Spy: What Intelligence Work Really Teaches About People | Julian Fisher

Secrets & Spies

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