80,000 Hours Podcast

Rob, Luisa, and the 80000 Hours team

Unusually in-depth conversations about the world's most pressing problems and what you can do to solve them. Subscribe by searching for '80000 Hours' wherever you get podcasts. Hosted by Rob Wiblin and Luisa Rodriguez.

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80,000 Hours Podcast

Episodes (321)

Yesterday Why Teaching AI Right from Wrong Could Get Everyone Killed | Max Harms, MIRI
Tue Feb 17th Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra
Tue Feb 10th What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

80,000 Hours Podcast

Feb 24, 2026
3¼ hours
148 MB

Most people in AI are trying to give AIs ‘good’ values. Max Harms wants us to give them no values at all. According to Max, the only safe design is an AGI that defers entirely to its human operators, has no views about how the world ought to be, is willingly modifiable, and completely indifferent to being shut down — a strategy no AI company is working on at all. In Max’s view any grander preferences about the world, even ones we agree with, will necessarily become distorted during a recursive self-improvement loop, and be the seeds that gro...

80,000 Hours Podcast

Why Teaching AI Right from Wrong Could Get Everyone Killed | Max Harms, MIRI

Rob, Luisa, and the 80000 Hours team

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