Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

Persephonica and Global Optimism

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast is for anyone who is not ready to give up on making the world a better place. For unrivalled conversations with decision makers, visionary thinkers and a community of like-minded climate optimists, join former UN climate chief Christiana Figueres, political strategist Tom Rivett-Carnac and sustainable business consultant Paul Dickinson. Each week they make sense of all the top climate news stories, go behind the scenes at crucial talks and ensure you stay informed and inspired ahead of what is set to be the consequential year for climate action.As we approach the middle of the...

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Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

Episodes (382)

Feb 26th Catastrophe Apathy: Why understanding the climate crisis isn’t enough
Feb 19th Trump Moves to Dismantle US Climate Law - Now Comes the Legal Test
Feb 12th Who Wields Power Now?: Money, Movements and the Future of Climate

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

Feb 26, 2026
36½ minutes
392 MB

Climate concern is not the problem. Most people have it. What's missing is everything that turns concern into action - and understanding that gap turns out to be a lot more complicated than it looks. This week, Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac and Paul Dickinson sit down with Lorraine Whitmarsh, Professor of Environmental Psychology and Director of the Centre for Climate Change and Social Transformations at the University of Bath. Together they dig into the psychology behind catastrophe apathy: why understanding an existential threat doesn't always lead to action, and what the research says actually moves p...

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

Catastrophe Apathy: Why understanding the climate crisis isn’t enough

Persephonica and Global Optimism

00:00 -35:38