Finding Our Way

Jesse James Garrett and Peter Merholz

UX design pioneers and Adaptive Path co-founders Peter Merholz and Jesse James Garrett discuss the evolving challenges and opportunities for design leaders.

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Finding Our Way

Episodes (74)

May 24th LIMINAL—4: You As A Service (ft. Dave Gray)
May 16th 73: Charting an Adaptive Path toward AI Transformation
May 9th 72: The Worst Technology Rollout in History (Ft. Paul Ford)

Finding Our Way

May 24, 2026
47¼ minutes
43 MB

Dave Gray, author of Liminal Thinking and founder of School of the Possible, joins Peter and Jesse to examine what's actually getting in leaders' way right now: not the disruption itself, but the expertise that blinds them to it. The conversation moves from beginner's mind to the compression of corporate work, landing on a provocative question — what does your value look like when you define it yourself?

Finding Our Way

LIMINAL—4: You As A Service (ft. Dave Gray)

Jesse James Garrett and Peter Merholz

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