The Courageous Podcast with Ryan Berman

Ryan Berman

Ryan Berman talks to thought leaders from around the globe in business, sports and entertainment to uncover what it means to be courageous in today's world.

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The Courageous Podcast with Ryan Berman

Episodes (269)

Wed May 20th David Lawlor - Former President at Kellanova Europe
Wed May 13th Maya Colombani - VP, Chief Sustainability, Human Rights, and DEI at L’ORÉAL Canada
Wed May 6th Michael Fanuele - Chief Brand Officer at Shake Shack

The Courageous Podcast with Ryan Berman

May 20, 2026
57¼ minutes
52 MB

David Lawlor spent 35 years at Kellogg and Kellanova, eventually retiring as President of Kellanova Europe. In this conversation with Ryan, he reflects on the moves that shaped him most: leaving Ireland, building the company’s Middle Eastern business, leading in Russia, and stepping into roles that looked risky from the outside but became defining chapters in his career. He talks about fear as the starting line of growth, why the right agenda matters more than the longest to-do list, and how leaders build belief by creating cultures where people know they can make a difference. Now in retirement, David is...

The Courageous Podcast with Ryan Berman

David Lawlor - Former President at Kellanova Europe

Ryan Berman

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