Getting Out The Podcast

Jesse Xander

Raw, unfiltered, conversations and interviews filled with laughter. Getting Out is Hosted By Me, Jesse Xander, Im a singer/songwriter, musician, and audio engineer…..oh yeah, I’m also an ex con and a recovering addict. I have 6 years clean from heroin. 3 of which were spent in prison, all during covid and locked down 24 hours a day for the majority of my time. So every day is a gift that I have to remind myself to even open. I spent most of my young life in the Entertainment industry. I had the privilege to work with artists such as The Sugar...

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Getting Out The Podcast

Episodes (72)

Wed Feb 11th How Slavery Survived & What Prison Labor Reveals About America
Jan 23rd Why We Laugh At Disaster And Marvel At A Bridge Carved Through A Mountain
Jan 13th Badges, Lies and a Double Life

Getting Out The Podcast

Feb 11, 2026
1¼ hours
51 MB

Slavery didn’t vanish—it moved behind prison walls. We pull back the curtain on the 13th Amendment’s punishment clause, the economics of captive labor, and why a system built on coercion and deprivation keeps people cycling back inside. Through lived experience, we examine the gap between “justice” on paper and daily life in state facilities where field squads work in brutal heat or freezing cold, wages range from pennies to nothing, and essentials like calls and email cost a premium. Did you know that to send emails prisoners have to buy STAMPS! Like its the USPS. <...

Getting Out The Podcast

How Slavery Survived & What Prison Labor Reveals About America

Jesse Xander

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