Design Systems WTF

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A podcast from zeroheight.Let’s be honest, design systems are full of choice wtf moments. Michelle and Luke, two of our resident design advocates, are attempting to combat this with a new regular series, where they answer a single question around design system troubles every two weeks.

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Design Systems WTF

Episodes (56)

Tue Jul 21st Is Governance Just Theater?
Tue Jul 14th What do the Config 2026 announcements mean for design systems?
Tue Jul 7th ⁠⁠Is driving adoption just a polite way of begging

Design Systems WTF

Jul 21, 2026
48 minutes
33 MB

Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michelle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single question around design system troubles with a Q&A from the live audience. Governance seems to be one of those fancy words that gets thrown around a lot by design system people - but what level of governance is actually worthwhile, and how much of it is theater? Michelle and Luke will dive into governance, what level is good enough, and...

Design Systems WTF

Is Governance Just Theater?

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