This Constitution

Savannah Eccles Johnston & Matthew Brogdon

This Constitution is an every-two-weeks podcast ordained and established by the Center for Constitutional Studies at Utah Valley University, the home of Utah’s Civic Thought & Leadership Initiative. Co-hosted by Savannah Eccles Johnston and Matthew Brogdon, This Constitution equips listeners with the knowledge and insights to engage with the most pressing political questions of our time, starting with Season 1, focusing on the powers and limits of the U.S. presidency.

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This Constitution

Savannah Eccles Johnston & Matthew Brogdon

Episodes (65)

Mon Oct 5th Season 4, Episode 12 | Was the Constitution Anti-Slavery? How Frederick Douglass Changed His Mind
Sep 21st Season 4, Episode 11 | The Newburgh Conspiracy: When Washington Saved the Republic (Again)
Sep 7th Season 4, Episode 10 | The Founders’ Hidden Weapon: American Diplomacy

This Constitution

Season 4, Episode 12 | Was the Constitution Anti-Slavery? How Frederick Douglass Changed His Mind

Oct 5, 2026
41½ minutes
28 MB

America was born with a promise and a lie. Frederick Douglass lived in the gap. How did a fugitive slave become one of the nation’s most radical constitutional thinkers? Why did he reject the Garrisonian view of the Constitution as a “covenant with death” and come to see it as anti-slavery? In this episode of This Constitution, Matthew Brogdon sits down with Bradley Rebeiro, law professor at Brigham Young University and author of Until the Last Yoke Is Broken: The Constitutional Vision of Frederick Douglass. Together they trace slavery and race from the Revolution through Dred Scott...

This Constitution

Season 4, Episode 12 | Was the Constitution Anti-Slavery? How Frederick Douglass Changed His Mind

Savannah Eccles Johnston & Matthew Brogdon

00:00 -40:37