Behind the Business with Michelle Toh

Michelle Toh

Behind the Business is a Webby Award-winning video podcast hosted by CNN and FORTUNE alum Michelle Toh that explores the decisions and philosophies behind some of today's most influential leaders. Its new season features the leaders of Airbnb, Rivian, NYSE, Samsung, Canva, Revolve, Peloton, Poppi and Away. The show is grounded in the belief that business is in fact personal, providing the backstories of founders, corporate leaders, investors and creators and how they push through to make the most of both work and life each day. This is not a fawning interview show. We pair deep research with thorough interviews — av...

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Behind the Business with Michelle Toh

Episodes (15)

Thu Jul 2nd Inside global black markets: Emmy-winning investigative journalist Mariana van Zeller
Jun 25th IPO parade? 3 pressing questions on global markets with the NYSE
Jun 18th From near-failure to global giant: Airbnb's co-founder on how it all almost never happened

Behind the Business with Michelle Toh

Jul 2, 2026
55 minutes
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“An estimated 30-35% of the global economy are black and gray markets.” That’s the world our next guest, Mariana van Zeller, has spent years investigating. From online scam centers to black-market oil, the Peabody Award-winning journalist has built a career going where few reporters can. "Trafficked" — her hit Nat Geo series — regularly breaks records at the Emmys. In this conversation, we dive into: 00:00: Introduction 01:18: The "hidden third" of the global economy 02:15: Growing up in Portugal and the path to journalism 03:50: Fighting her way into Columbia University 05:56: Covering 9/11 and finding her calling 09:20: Reporting from Syria and entering the world of black m...

Behind the Business with Michelle Toh

Inside global black markets: Emmy-winning investigative journalist Mariana van Zeller

Michelle Toh

00:00 -54:42